6 cyl Gaskets (head)

[GREG]

Quote -- We play with them to have fun, to enjoy the company of other collectors, be it racing, or the more genteel jaunt across the countryside enjoying bucolic vistas whilst stopping in a country inn for a meal and glass that brings great joy. Quote --

I agree Claude. It's all a bit of a hobby and a bit of fun for most. Maybe Eric is a car dealer and profit is a major concern ? Still no reason for him to be treated badly ,but the way it is dealt with is and rectified maybe different.

Hardly any wonder that the "Nutter! comment is mentioned when one minute there are threats of legal action and adverts / web sites showing all correspondence, then weeks later, all we have is Eric's word that any of this happened but no facts ! And of course the gasket that is used by many owners but not good enough for Eric's car. ( although I agree that he should have been advised about the hole modification )

All of the conspiracy theories Eric dreams up don't help his case either -- not one correct yet ! In fact ramblings of a Nutter.

Unless Eric does what he says and shows us something, he will always be looked at with a degree of doubt.

Contrary to what Eric believes, to begin with, I think most people that read the initial postings sympathised and supported his fight for justice.

I think all the venom, accusations of collusion, rants and none of the evidence that was threatened / promised has lost a lot of that initial sympathy and interest.

P.S - I don't work for Bristol and as far as I am aware nobody else does that posts on this forum and I dislike Belgium people no more than any other Nationality.


Anyone know where I can get some 411 windscreen rubbers - quick

[pasini s]

I think that Claude's words about 'British Peculiarities' are absolutely
spot-on and I plan to have them etched somewhere and framed, then hung on
the wall of my practice. If somebody does not understand the peculiarities
of classic British cars, why buy one? Go ahead and buy a classic racing
Porsche....then (as it happened to me 4 days ago) you will be asked Euro 350
for a manifold and Euro 2200 (twothousandtwohundredeuros....) to shoehorn it
into the engine bay. Does it mean that I feel that I have any rights to
complain with the best from Stuttgart? No. They are doing what they have to
do, that's it.

Cheers from a very rainy Italy,
Stefano

[GREG]

[quote=pasini s;3936]I think that Claude's words about 'British Peculiarities' are absolutely
spot-on (/QUOTE]


And I don't think any of us English people would apologise for that, and why should we ? It's probably why Bristol exist and have kept going :- )

Maybe we are all been mistreated and treated unfairly ! - but do we care ?

Or are the cool machines we drive around worth it ? I know a lot of makes of car that make so much more sense as a classic but ..................... don't want one.

Although my London Cab is cool also :-)

[Geoff Kingston]

In the early 80's I worked in London with a Solicitor who said that he generally preferred cats to people, reading some of the comments on this forum I understand exactly what he meant.
Depending on your point of view its getting almost as good/bad as disco web a site where owners of the product of Landrover such as myself can go for sympathy and abuse in equal measure,
Meow!!

[Eric Brumenil]

Originally Posted by pasini s

as it happened to me 4 days ago) you will be asked Euro 350 for a manifold and Euro 2200 (twothousandtwohundredeuros....) to shoehorn it into the engine bay.
Does it mean that I feel that I have any rights to
complain with the best from Stuttgart? No. They are doing what they have to do, that's it.
Stefano

Stefano ,
if your quoted expensive Porsche manifold didn’t have the correct number of holes !!!
Would you accept it as it ?

[Hydroglen]

Eric,
You are making too much about this gasket. It works... and so it is not
defective.
As I said before, maybe a 10% difference in cooling. The other poster with
the seatbelt cover is more serious. It is basically a cosmetic piece that is
obviously not for that car and so useless.
We have established that BCL is struggling in coming up with parts for older
cars, and their advertising is a bit misleading.
Re Stefano... why he has to pay euro 2200 to shoehorn a manifold in? Maybe
it has the wrong number of holes and is the wrong one and hence the
expensive labour to fit it LOL.
Look on the bright side!
Dorien

[bristolblue]

Hi,
I have a sailing yacht and when I bought it luckily the hull had no hole.
Life is so different.
In Germany we have the # Pfennigfuchser #
in Great Britain we have the # bean counter #
in the Netherlands we have the # mieren neuker # and one grade higher
in Belgium we have the #amoeben neuker#
You dont go to court if You are using these words to a police officer.
I have enough of these one sided stories. Lets hear the other side?
No lets stop here. Hole or no hole.
Thanks

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[peterg]

Greg,
How suitable do you think your taxi tyres would be on a 403? Cross plies are
getting low and I need to make a desision.

I want to get the wheels powder coated silver at the same time (along with
the radiator grill) so if any one knows of a good coater. preferably
convenient to South West London/ Sussex.
Regards, Peter

[pasini s]

Hello Dorien,

well, that Porsche manifold must have had lots of wrong holes in it....
:-)))) but the awesome cost of replacing it is due to the fact that, being
my 911 a Turbo, you have to pull down the whole engine/transmission assembly
to get some access in that zone. Do you think that I did ever imagined to
check if porsche put the right number of layers of copper/aluminum/bronze in
this manifold? noooooo.....

On a brighter note I'm experimenting Audi/VW 16"x6,5 steel wheels as
replacement for the 409 16" Dunlops, and I have found a set that might be
very, very similar (and straight, something my Dunlops are not anymore).
I'll keep you posted about it.

Ciao
Stefano

[GREG]

Originally Posted by peterg

Greg,
How suitable do you think your taxi tyres would be on a 403? Cross plies are
getting low and I need to make a desision.

I want to get the wheels powder coated silver at the same time (along with
the radiator grill) so if any one knows of a good coater. preferably
convenient to South West London/ Sussex.
Regards, Peter

I think they are fine. Lots of people use them without a problem and I have them on a 401.

[Eric Brumenil]

Originally Posted by GREG

all we have is Eric's word that any of this happened but no facts ! And of course the gasket that is used by many owners but not good enough for Eric's car.

It is very easy to joke when you are not concerned
In my opinion , a cylinder head gasket is good or not
but it can be in an intermediate condition
It suits or not your engine type & specification

I am interested to know how many customers would have accepted to have this type of cylinder head gasket installed if he ( she) has been previously informed .
This without any consideration of price of course !

Greg would you ?

The biggest problem they have with me is that I have written no lies
I am attacked only on my lack of English knowledge
None of my assertion on technical problems have been contradicted !!!

[Eric Brumenil]

Originally Posted by Eric Brumenil

In my opinion , a cylinder head gasket is good or not

I am interested to know how many customers would have accepted to have this type of cylinder head gasket installed if he ( she) has been previously informed .
This without any consideration of price of course !

Greg would you ?

Greg , it looks you have a nice car in very good condition

why d'ont you answer my question ?

Would you accept to have such parts installed on your car ?

[RGSchmitt]

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Customer: "The head gasket you sent me was missing a cooling system
hole, so my mechanic punched one and it got installed OK"

Factory: "Thanks for that. None of our other customers mentioned
that to us. We'll check the original drawings and inform our supplier."

[UK6]

Factory: We are sorry to learn that you received the incorrect head gasket.
Please return the part- we will pay freight and air freight you the correct
head gasket within 24 hrs. Please accept our sincere apology.

Note: Any modification to factory parts will void warranty.

Customer: Thank you for your prompt attention - it is nice dealing with such
a reputable company.





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[Eric Brumenil]

Originally Posted by RGSchmitt

Factory: "Thanks for that. None of our other customers mentioned
that to us. We'll check the original drawings and inform our supplier."

This is exactly what fair trading suggests to do

I thought it will be like that

[RGSchmitt]

Better! Numerous reasonable scenarios can be constructed and
perhaps this is a "teachable moment" that reasonable car owners can learn from.

[peterf]

Hi Bellerophon,

Thank you for the information on the head gasket - appreciated.
I noticed that the gasket "SET" on Ebay sold although I am not sure how complete the "set" really was.

Thanks again

Cheers

PeterF

[GREG]

Originally Posted by Eric Brumenil

Greg , it looks you have a nice car in very good condition

why d'ont you answer my question ?

Would you accept to have such parts installed on your car ?

Thanks !

I would take advise from the man installing the gasket.

I have already agreed - what more do you want ?