Unhappy postings

[Claude]

"This will be my last post into this thread"

Whew!

[Richard Levine]

Claude I second that proposal!!


Richard Levine

[Claude]

Originally Posted by Richard Levine

Claude I second that proposal!!

Richard Levine

Dear Kevin,

In view of the extensive postings that in essence file a complaint against Bristol Cars in the forum, it occurs to me that perhaps as web master you might develop a template for complaints and require posters follow it or have their postings deleted. This includes a requirement that words like "Scammed" be defined. Scamming is when a vendor is bogus, and the offering does not exist and the intent is to commit fraud. Scammers do not have permanent offices open to the public after the scam.

In the particular case of Eric, it probably is time for some German / English jokes. The German expectation of workmanship is the world's highest standard. For those of us who try to restore our Bristols, we probably have worse stories than Eric (I certainly do), but we view it as part of the territory when one seeks to improve a car that were it the ordinary Chrysler, would long ago have been recycled into Budweiser cans.

Taking Bristol Cars as the target of the day, I went on a major shopping trip years ago when Virgin Airlines offered a $250 long weekend from JFK to Heathrow. I brought back the most unbelievable check-in luggage, including a complete stainless steel exhaust system (which the bomb sniffers of the day took a very long time to x-ray) from Bristol Cars Spares. Among those gems were a new set of hubcaps from Bristol Spares that then sat in the garage for several years. Obviously a subcontracted purchase by BCL, the chrome delaminated and they were worthless. Next visit I took one back, which they kept for inspection, but never replaced them. Eventually, I found a vendor offering new hubcaps on eBay, bought them, had them shipped in four different packages by the Royal Mail (due to their weight limit), and they have held up fine.

Now, if I were German, I would be outraged at this substandard work and would go to war. If I were English, I would stoically accept what I perceived as an abuse and maintain a stiff, if slightly quivering, upper lip. If I were an American (which I am), I would have been slightly amused, shrugged it off, and taken out my weapon of choice, my credit card and moved on. And yes, I probably have wasted over five figures on substandard work on my Bristol which I have had to pay twice, thrice or fice (is that a word?) before it was done right... not paid to Bristol Cars, but other "experts" in the industry.

And, to keep the national theme for a moment, if I were Italian, I would have so delightfully told the forum of my woes, sought lots of advice and generally made everyone happy. May we have more Italian Bristol owners!

The internet is very valuable in assessing what product to buy. On Amazon, a review of two different expresso machines caused me to buy the more expensive unit, as the complaints by the user sounded likely. However, these reviews need to be precise, tightly stated and without slander. We need information and the internet provides a counterbalance to the advertising claims of vendors.

Eric's rant however, failed the test. It was interesting to read if one is a consumer anthropologist, but it contained far too much heat and not enough light. It probably deserves to be deleted unless someone wants to do a major edit, reduce it to the facts only and see if someone can't stop by Bristol Cars to get the other side of the story... although the other side may be obvious... it's an OLD car.

My big fear is that too much of this stuff, and Bristol Cars will change its policy and tell old car owners to go away. The law requires ten years of parts stocking, and certainly does not require they recondition old stuff. I would hate to see a business decision be made based on this sort of heat.

Over to you (isn't it fun to run a web forum?)

Claude

[Eric Brumenil]

Originally Posted by Claude

Scammers do not have permanent offices open to the public after the scam.
Claude

My knowledge of English is too limited to feel the nuances .
Read this exemple .

You buy a nice vintage radio that is not working

There is a specilaist in Germany who advertize for modification to FM band . Its obviously tempting and you send your radio to Germany for the modification . In the same time you ask him to change all the components inside to be on the safe side . Some months later you are informed that the radio is ready with all new parts . You pay immediatly and it is time now to install the radio in your Maserati . This is a hard job because the hole dashboard need to be removed . As soon as it's done you switch on the radio and it doesn't work .....wow ....
You call the German and he confirms everything is new . You remove the radio and you go to a local specialist who open the cover and tells you that nothing had been done

Can you tell me what is the right word to explain this particular situation
I am here to learn

[Eric Brumenil]

Claude , Richard
I am not going to speak about my problems
Don't worry ( you can also avoid to read my threads )

Do you mean you have by divin right a special acreditation to decide what can or cannot be written in this forum ?

Usually only simple minds are not able to enter in a contradictory debate

I am the first to accept to be critisized but this should be based on fact . Facts you can prove of course .
Rumour , sarcastic judgment that are based on nothing make me laugh
This demonstrate me that is it a waste of time to answer your ramblings .

This is not exactly what we call "Democraty" ... and we return to the question of "divine right" .... that you may have ?

For me it is a thing of the past

[Nick Challacombe]

Well there you go! and I thought it was all over. I have been on holiday in Spain for the last few weeks and have read several novels and have become quite absorbed by the unhappy postings. It must have been the longest soap opera ever on a Forum.
Still this last posting shows you cannot keep a good dog down.
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Thank you Moderator:-) I know you can turn everything off but you had to let this one run its course.
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I hope Eric is feeling better now he has vented his feelings and that we can get back to normality (whatever that is) and enjoy posting like the Jenson 10.
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Happy Days are here again!
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Nick, V8 and proud.
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[Eric Brumenil]

Originally Posted by Nick Challacombe

Still this last posting shows you cannot keep a good dog down.
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Nick, V8 and proud.
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Nick ,
The big difference between you and me is that I have always respected all the members of this forum

Your contemptuous attitude reflect who you are
I am so sorry for you !

[Hydroglen]

Well Claude,
Perhaps much of this could have ben avoided. Too may people rushing to
defend Bristol....had you chipped in with your hubcap story and such like,
Eric would have realized that he was not alone, and perhaps this was just
the way it is. Grin and move on.
Your international or national theme was infact followed LOL.
Eric is in Belgium, a quasi central location in Europe. So he used the
British side and did his quivering lip bit with mail and meetings....then
passed on to the Italian (Latin) side and told everybody of his woes. On his
way home from Italy he cut through the German side and may be planning a
war!
You see Claude, it was all as you thought.
I agree the internet can be fun!
Dorien