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Old 28-09-16, 06:50 AM
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To answer your question at the end, with what I know about this matter I can't understand why anyone would attend his event.
Possibly because they couldn't care less?

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All we are after is dad's car back home where it belongs.
From what I recall, your dad SOLD the car. He didn't want it any more, because he had done racing it and had moved on to another car. He allowed someone to drive off in the car, never expecting to see it again. So it wasn't "stolen".

I gather that your dad agreed that the buyer of the car could pay for it in installments and the buyer made some payments, but not all that were required.

Your dad should have pursued the debtor. Had he done so, he would have probably got the rest of his money, but in all likelihood he wouldn't have got the car back, so I don't see how you can argue that it "belongs" back home.

You're just saying that because it's now worth a lot of money.
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Old 28-09-16, 10:06 AM
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All I can say to that is reread the Indy Star article. We have documentation proving our efforts to repo the car dad never really wanted to sell in the first place. My own search for 3038 started almost 30 years ago, long before everyone started adding zeros to the value of these cars.
I've stated before, we don't want the car back just to run off to the auction block and cash in. When it comes home its to stay. Very interesting, everyone's take on this.
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Old 29-09-16, 01:36 PM
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We've all sold cars we didn't really want to sell, and there are certainly cars I regret selling. That's life.

"When the car comes home?" Unless you have some contract documentation between your dad and the guy he sold it to, then all you have is anecdotal evidence that won't stand up in court.

Let's face it, if you had evidence that the car was actually stolen, you would have it back by now, just like this guy has his E-Type back, which was actually stolen ... Stolen E-Type Jaguar to be returned to owner - 46 years on - BBC News
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Old 29-09-16, 03:09 PM
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The documentation you're saying I don't have is already in the Indy Star article, with more to come. There's hardly anything anecdotal about the title still in my dad's name.
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Old 29-09-16, 03:25 PM
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A broker that can't do his research buys a stolen car and gets a free pass but I'm called on the carpet for trying to get the car back. I'm sure there's other brokers seeing this forum, can't wait to see their thoughts on this subject.
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Old 29-09-16, 03:52 PM
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A broker that can't do his research buys a stolen car and gets a free pass but I'm called on the carpet for trying to get the car back. I'm sure there's other brokers seeing this forum, can't wait to see their thoughts on this subject.
Well I would be one of those brokers as I deal with many Arnolt-Bristols. All brokers are presented with suspected stolen or fake cars at some point in their careers. Our job is to do our research and keep them out of the hands of our unsuspecting clients. It is never any fun having to go back to the seller and explain to them that their car has an unsavory past. But again it is part of the job.

I have asked this question before. At the time of purchase how exactly was this current owner to know the history of the car? The Indy Star article only came out last summer. Well after the purchase of the car. How exactly was he to know the history of this particular Arnolt-Bristol?

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Old 29-09-16, 04:14 PM
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I answered this in another post. The broker in question told me he was aware of the history on 3038 but dismissed it as just a story. There are plenty of Arnolt-Bristol enthusiasts that have known our story for many years. Lee Raskin, Mike DiCola, Kenneth Andren, John Schefflin, I'm sure there's more.
For that matter, according to past registries the car was in Wesport and at Chinetti motors. Very close to where it is now. The names in the registry would've been a good place to start his research.
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