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05-02-11, 08:13 PM
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I did say that I had never heard anything bad about a Bristol dealer and that includes Andrew Blow.
I was just pointing out that I don't see benefits to the seller or buyer using this process. Does the buyer get a warranty like dealers offer ? Not an attack on the man, just questioning the benefits of the system. 
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05-02-11, 09:14 PM
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For them, the intermediary provides a useful service, among other things making sure that time is not wasted or the seller offers a deal that is not what the buyer wants. I have friends who are wholly unsuited to buying. They proudly drive up with a shiny, bondo-filled, clapped out car that they paid twice what it was worth; their head filled with nonsense tales told by the sociopathic vendor who was looking to offload a piece of junk. A reputable dealer or agent will charge more to earn their premium, but know that to stay in business they must conduct fair dealing. As a buyer, like you, I prefer to go it alone. But as a seller until auction sites came along, I would prefer to consign the car. I find when selling that I attract people who are not serious about buying, who want to tell me their life story, or who have this idea that they can beat me down on price and the way to do this is disparagement. When I put my well-kept 409 up for sale, I had a number of buyers trying to convince me to accept NZ$20,000 - they were very intense about it. Then I put it up on trademe.co.nz at $35,000 and instantly had two buyers vying. Instead of a bidding war, I said the first to wire a deposit into my account bought it. Unlike the bottom feeders, these were serious buyers who were ready to buy and were prepared to pay a fair price for the car. Thus, I am a big fan of auction sites and am prepping our 1979 Alfa Spider and our 1969 Uniflite Navy Motorwhaler for sale on them soon. This will give me the cash and the garage space to work on the 411 and the 69 Spider sitting in the hobby queue. What it really comes down to is that you are as qualified as a reputable dealer or agent, so you don't need one.
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05-02-11, 09:56 PM
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Well put , now it makes more sense - for some.
I probably need to sell stuff as well but hate the thought of it. I guess mother traumatised me throwing my old favourite toys away, so I want to keep everything :-)
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09-02-11, 09:36 PM
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I tend to agree, a commission sale will always work harder for the seller than buyer, it's natural. Not a fan really. However a nice car, good to see it back on the road along with the other 4 remaining examples.
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20-02-11, 03:01 AM
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I noticed the latest sales comment on a car for sale !!!
- Quote- The 406 is the last of the Bristol-engined 6 cylinder cars, and has standard overdrive giving 5 gears, and disc brakes all round. Lots of unique features only fitted to the 406 model. Some consider it the best car Bristol built, myself included, -Quote- For me the best Bristol ever made within my price range is the Bristol 411 S1 and that is why I own one. It seems a bit strange that a Bristol dealer would state that the 406 is the best car ever built by Bristol but not own one according to the register ! I don't know if the register is complete. ? Or is it me ! :-)
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20-02-11, 12:26 PM
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An individual private dealer who specialises in a particular marque ends up driving them almost every day, and Andrew has probably driven almost every type of Bristol ever made, including one-offs (I still regret not buying the Abbot 404 from him many years ago). So he probably sees no great need to own a particular type. I know an individual dealer of classic cars in Melbourne who has bought and sold more Astons than anyone in Australia. I have bought three from him and sold two through him myself. I once wondered how he could possibly sell some of these cars, particularly the fine examples of rare models, and why he didn't have a stable of superb Astons for his personal use. But I realised that dealers have to detach themselves from the desires that drive enthusiasts like ourselves, otherwise it would impact on their business. The other thing is they know that they will keep on having opportunities to drive these cars again and again, sometimes the exact same cars.
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20-02-11, 07:18 PM
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Fair comment.
And I guess the other problem would be that if they don't get used often enough the mechanical condition will suffer. Some of the big car collectors like Jay Leno on Simon Draper must have a permanent team of mechanics just to keep them all in running order ! What a great problem to have ! Jay Leno's Garage
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