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Old 27-03-11, 12:05 PM
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Errant political jabs aside, well, it's not near $4 per gallon where I live in mid-US.
Which means you would be less concerned with fuel consumption and why you would never contemplate putting a diesel engine in your Bristol!

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Folks here are very upset at our current government's drilling policy
Those would presumably NOT be the folks who don't live around the Gulf of Mexico

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The nearly 15% increase in UK VAT rate to 20% last Jan. hasn't helped there.
The big problem with UK petrol prices, is that before they calculate the VAT, they add about 140% in duty!
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Old 27-03-11, 01:12 PM
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Are you boys discussing US gallons or Imperial gallons?

Talk Metric so all of us understand!
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Old 27-03-11, 02:12 PM
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Are you boys discussing US gallons or Imperial gallons?

Talk Metric so all of us understand!
If it comes from the states, you can bet it's US measure. Surely your cell phone has a calculator!

There are a very few places here where one sees distances in both miles and kilometers on our Interstate system, but only a few. It's basically a waste of paint putting it up on the signs.

Though most cars sold here will show kilometers and miles on the speedometer, I suspect that's primarily for the convenience of the maker.

In day-to-day activity no red-blooded American is going to use that foreign invention, metric measurement. Scientifically, some industrially, yes.

I've never seen fuel sold by the litre here.
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OT: My reason for asking is, that using "gallons" can be very confusing, as a US guy talks one gallon (3.785 liters) and an Aussie talks one gallon (4.546 liters)

I know the difficulty the US population has accepting changes. I live close, and have to go there from time to time...
UK are not much better, 10 years of enjoyable living there taught me that!
UK is Metric now, but older folks still use the Old measures.


Not sure what a red-blooded American is. I understand most of you are 3rd or 4th generation immgrants? Sweden and Norway lost about 25% of the population to the US and Canada in the 1860-1890. Hyge impact on your culture it was. A good one.

But I do believe the times are moving to a more universal systems.
The vast majority of us are Metric, and our numbers grow every day! The only countries left not accepting the Metric system are USA, Liberia and Burma...
The US are in good company then!

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Too much bickering for a Sunday -- I'm off for a PINT !
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Old 27-03-11, 02:46 PM
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Greg, enjoy!

I too will get some liquid bread today...

BTW, a quite important question:
What petrol do you guys use?
Here we have the US style petrol, and I thought I use a 50/50 mix between the Higher Octane and the Lower octane.
What do you recommend?

Edit: What you guys do not understand, is the reson why the Metric System was developed by the Frenchies 200+ years ago.

It sounds better in Centimeters than Inches!!!

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Here we have the US style petrol, and I thought I use a 50/50 mix between the Higher Octane and the Lower octane.
What do you recommend?
What is "US style petrol"?

I don't see much point in mixing lower octane (91 RON?) petrol with higher octane (98 RON?), surely you may as well just use one or the other.

I use 98 RON petrol in my 411 S5 but since the engine was rebuilt it has a higher CR. The original Chrysler V8's had a relatively low compression ratio so 91/92 RON petrol should suffice.

The 400 CID engines used in the 411 S4 & S5 actually have a lower CR than the 383s in the earlier 411s.

If you don't drive it very hard then you probably don't need to worry about VSR (valve seat recession), but you could always put in an additive to guard against that.

That said, if the engine number in your car (411 S5?) has a "J" series number (or later) it will have hardened valve seats anyway.

As for the metric vs imperial argument, given that the metric users on this site far outnumber the US Imperial users, I suggest we use litres from now on when discussion fuel prices. Then Lou can use the calculator on his cell phone instead of everyone else
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As my engine has been restored and upgraded, I guess I will need to use the highest Octane.
Sometimes we get good quality fuels here, sometimes bad. All fuel is imported from South America (cheaper I think). The Diesel oil here is disgusting.

I think the highest here is 96, but not sure (wife does the refuelling on our cars except the Diesel Defender).
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As for the metric vs imperial argument, given that the metric users on this site far outnumber the US Imperial users, I suggest we use litres from now on when discussion fuel prices. Then Lou can use the calculator on his cell phone instead of everyone else
I'm happy to use my calculator, thanks.

What's a "US Imperial user?"
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Those would presumably NOT be the folks who don't live around the Gulf of Mexico
"A glib response...refuge of those w/o serious thoughts, who giggle at their own jests...usually ignoreth logic" Tacitus? Pliny?

..an awful lot of folks are put out of work when/where drilling isn't underway.

The impact of the BRITISH company's failure to operate properly has been pretty well-handled, it seems.
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