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Old 04-11-16, 11:14 PM
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Default Identification engine type

Is it possible to identify the type of engine by the engine number (85, 100D, BS1 etc)?
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Old 05-11-16, 08:01 PM
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Noot ,
Yes it is easy to identify the type of engine by the engine number and prefix .
Pls advise the number
Geoff
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The 85 series engines A to C were found in the 400 and 401, the 100A in the 403 with a few late cars fitted with the 100B normally found in the 405.
The 100D2 was supplied to AC for the ace though some found their way into Bristols own cars, this is probably the most valuable/sought after of the road units.
The FNS series engines were supplied to Frazer Nash mostly for racing use and likewise the BS series engines were again mainly intended for racing use and sold to a number of customers for that purpose perhaps the most notable being cooper.
All of these numbers are the engine type numbers and all of 2 litre capacity. The 110 series engine that followed was of 2.2 Litre capacity and fitted to the 406 and some AC's. I am told it is not eligible for Historic Racing so is not so valuable but is a upgrade favoured for the earlier cars which is a shame as the 406 is a good and to some degree under rated car.
On the engine identification plate the numbers that follow the Type number as above are the actual engine number, it is the type number which will identify the original specification and you will sometimes see engines with plates stamped with for example 100A/B2 which means that it is a 100A engine modified to 100B2 spec rather than a unit originally built to 100B2 specification. In a lot of cases it was down to cam and carb changes and now if you have the money and or the skills virtually all of these units can be developed to provide more and properly done reliable extra power.
Most of the books on Bristol Cars have a section on the engine types and at least one of the Club websites also has a lot of information on the subject.
Geoff Dowdle who has also replied on this I am sure can give you a lot more information and help on these engines.

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The problem is there are no numbers on the engine and head. Only in the casting of the block is N 312400. On the mounting of the starter engine is FSN and no number
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Old 06-11-16, 10:27 AM
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Noot,

N312400 is the block casting number .
This casting was used from 1951 - 1954 in the following engines that I and others have sighted & recorded (but I can not say all of these block in the period were N312400).

Late 85C without the heat exchange bulge fitted to 401
100A and AB2 fitted to 403
100B fitted to 404
early 100B2 fitted to early 405
probably some 100C & C2

You mentioned "FSN" please confirm is that correct or is it "FNS"

FNS engines were fitted to Frazer Nash cars from late 1948 to early 1953 and more than likely used block castings N312400 in most of them but I have no record of that .
I suggest you post a few photos of the exhaust side of the block & FSN stamping and the top , bottom and distributor side of the head . Most Bristol heads have a part number and date stamped in the bottom face .

Geoff
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Old 06-11-16, 10:40 AM
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Here the pictures that I have
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Noot ,

These photos seem to be of a 85C engine ex a 401 .
The crank , water pump , block , oil pump all look 85C
Check the block for cracks in the water jacket ,
the head seems to have been skimmed quite a few times .

Good Luck
Geoff
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Old 08-11-16, 11:40 AM
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Default Identification engine type

Attached is a picture of an FNS block.Mr. Dowdle is correct in his assumption that its casting number is N312400.
Gerald.

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