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| 6 cyl Bristol cars Type 400 to 406 - restoration, repair, maintenance etc |
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Geoff,
Thanks.......yes you are correct. In essence there are 2 adjustments. One, for the bearings using the distance washers that come in different thicknesses, and the second with the brass shims between the cases. If either or both are off, then this will affect the CW mesh/lash. When dismantling it took me some 10 minutes of careful tapping to split the case and not damage the brass shims. That is what I meant when I said this is a hard adjustment to make. Hopefully the original shims will do the trick. This rear axle seems to have suffered at the hands of some strange people. Apart from the distance washer already discussed, the main carrier to the axle itself had 1/2 the studs stripped or broken. I realized this as I was unbolting it. I will have to drill and tap new threads. The CW/P are actually in amazingly in good shape. Thanks Dorien> |
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Peter:
I tried to send a picture of the replacement crown wheel carrier and bearings but it's in the wrong format for this site. If you (or anybody) will send me a note to wmw79@aol.com, I will try to send you the picture directly. I called Wayne Mitchell. He has 2 or 3 units on his shelf. He can be reached at: wtmitchell@att.net**** He has a website: www.dogrings.com** (He makes parts for Hewland gearboxes) Bill Watkins |
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Thanks Bill,
Certainly pictures would be good to have. Perhaps you know the Arnolt that Bill Mac Farling owns, that he converted with a Chev 289. He changed the rear axle, (Mercury Monarch) to handle the horsepower. Cheers Dorien Berteletti |
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Dorien:
The pictures have been sent. I don't know Bill MacFarling but I have seen 3 or 4 Arnolts that were converted to Chevrolet. I almost did it myself after I cracked a crankshaft, but I came to my senses and bought a new crank. The suitability of the rear axle was one of the issues. The other was the class (with Can-Am cars & such) that I would have to run with at the Monterey Historics. It was only possible to qualify for entry because of some publicity that Wacky had imported a couple of cars without engines with the intent of installing Chevys. I asked Michael Arnolt about this and he said that his father had never followed through on that. Bill |
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I have previously written about the rear axle on the Bristol, but will
repeat some of what I have said. First, all the gears for most of the 2 litre cars were made by ENV Gears of NW London, these were precision ground gears of a very high standard. However, ENV went out of business (not certain of the date but think it would be in the later 50's). Bristol had to then resource, and went to Salisbury for the rear axles which were not manufactured by the same methods and therefore not as accurate. The result of this was that Bristol experienced noisy axles, so much so that they had to take action, so appointed Percy Kemish their racing engine man to sort out the problem. He told me that it took a while but found that the problem was a quality one and was cured by better finish in manufacturing, and a more selective fit. (not easy to get right) Now the workshop manual gives full instructions on setting up the crown wheel and pinion, and as they have been run together for some time now should not cause a problem. One point to note is that the ratio is stamped on the components, and would be most likely a 3.9 or a 4.22 on the overdrive cars. However some cars which were used for sporting activities had the later ones fitted. If some of our members do not have a copy of the workshop manual and intend to work on the cars, they will save themselves a lot of bother by having the facts to hand. My regards, Bellerophon |
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My gears are infact stamped ENV 10 x 39. The Pinion and Crown also have the
numbers 2130 handwritten with an indelible marker. The only damage to the sytem is some slight nicks to the bolt heads securing the Crown. This would have happened as the pinion slid back as there was no spacer to hold the bearing/companion flange. The faces are in great shape. Considering I have toured England, Scotland, Wales, France and a good part of Eastern Canada, with my 400, I conclude that I am very lucky the pinion staid in place. It decided to move whilst in the safety of my driveway as I was leaving for a club event in New England. Given that you have experience on the subject, there are a couple of points that you might help me with. I would be curious to see a picture of the CW bearing caps and their fixed counterparts. On mine, the castings do not match so as to make a perfect piece. Infact there is a ledge or notch were the two halves meet. Seems as if the bearing caps were from a different carrier / casting. Can it be partly 400 and partly 401? I have sent pictures to the webmaster to illustrate the point. Some of the studs that hold the carrier in the rear axle have been crudely welded on the inside of the case. This caused me much grief as when undoing the nuts the stud started turning. They could not act as bolts and back out, because of the welding. Round and around we went. I had to carefully cut them off with a high speed grinder and now will retap and repair WITHOUT welding. Bodges on my car, or has this been seen before? Regards Dorien Last edited by Kevin H; 28-11-08 at 11:45 PM. Reason: added photos |