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Old 19-02-10, 01:36 AM
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Hi all -

A funny thing happened on the way to Amazon...

I finally got motivated last week to buy the new Bristol book from Amazon (US) and searched their site for "Bristol". Near the Balfour listing was "Bristol Cars and Engines" by Setright at nearly the same price - or about 1/3 of the lowest price I've previously seen. It was a used, ex-library copy, but I ordered it. The seller was near to Los Angeles and I received it this week. Good condition, formerly in the Azusa library. It's nice to have, but I'll entertain offers around the average addall.com price (is anyone actually paying $600 for a copy?).

Bob
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I have bought two at $600 but one is for regular reading, next to my Gideon bible, and the other is to display at concourse car shows. I have been informed that cheaper copies may be counterfeit.

The fakes are very good but are a slightly lighter shade of blue on the cover and the bindings will collapse over time due to being made in sweat shops in Tasmania.

Greg
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I have bought two at $600 but one is for regular reading, next to my
Gideon bible, and the other is to display at concourse car shows. I
have been informed that cheaper copies may be counterfeit.

The fakes are very good but are a slightly lighter shade of blue on
the cover and the bindings will collapse over time due to being made
in sweat shops in Tasmania.

Greg

Oh lucky man! Almost as good as owning more than one
Bristol-engined car, but with much less maintenance. Come to think
of it, I'd swap my new copy for another copy of "The Postwar Frazer Nash".

Bob

PS Skillful rebinding of the Tasmanian editions is being done on
Stewart's Island.
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Here is a copy of Setright offered at US$250:

Amazon.com: Used and New: Bristol cars and engines
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They (the Amazon Books) are not the Palawyn Press one published in 1999 I
think, as a 2 folio book.
It is call Bristol "A Private Car"
The one refered to can be picked up quite often on UK ebay at £100.00 or so
and a 1st edition at that.

"You can tell these books by their cover," one is A5 size or just a bit
bigger with a Red cover, no dust sleeve and gold lettering.
The other is in a slip case with two volumes A4 or bigger, mine is in a
black case with a Bristol Badge on the front.

Nick

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Nick -

Palawan still is selling the 2 volume Setright
book, according to their website:

"A Private Car Ė An Account of the Bristol" By L. K. Setright

Awarded the Montagu of Beaulieu Trophy by the
Guild of Motoring Writers 1999. Setrightís
Bristol book is essentially an account of all
cars that have borne the name Bristol. It is
written in the established Setright style, which
is meant to be a highly literate, comfortably
personal, appropriately technical, adequately
anecdotal, mildly scholarly, gently judgmental, and entirely honest.

see
http://www.palawan.co.uk/BookDetail....0the%20Bristol

The standard edition is 1/2 the cost of the
asking price for "Bristol Cars and Engines" (6.5" x 9")!

Bob
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Nonsense,
You can pick up Bristol cars and engines for £100.00, I defy you to find "Bristol A Private Car2 for that Kind of price, if so I will buy it for £50.00 as many as you can find!
Please let me know when you find one, mine cost £600.00 new in 1999.
My Bristol Cars and engines cost me £60.00 in 1999.
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No contest!
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Every month at least one copy of Bristol Cars and Engines comes up on UK ebay and have fetched, at most £200.00 and one went for £60.00 last year, not a first edition.
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Where you ideas come from I have no idea.
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Try and buy a copy of a Private Car for £200.00 in the De lux form, you will not succeed.
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I think you have mixed up the books, even Charles Oxley Books do not make £200.00!
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Palawan still is selling the 2 volume Setright
book, according to their website:

"A Private Car ‚Äď An Account of the Bristol" By L. K. Setright

Awarded the Montagu of Beaulieu Trophy by the
Guild of Motoring Writers 1999. Setright’s
Bristol book is essentially an account of all
cars that have borne the name Bristol. It is
written in the established Setright style, which
is meant to be a highly literate, comfortably
personal, appropriately technical, adequately
anecdotal, mildly scholarly, gently judgmental, and entirely honest.

see
http://www.palawan.co.uk/BookDetail....0the%20Bristol

The standard edition is 1/2 the cost of the
asking price for "Bristol Cars and Engines" (6.5" x 9")!

Bob



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They (the Amazon Books) are not the Palawyn Press one published in 1999 I
think, as a 2 folio book.
It is call Bristol "A Private Car"
The one refered to can be picked up quite often on UK ebay at £100.00 or so
and a 1st edition at that.

"You can tell these books by their cover," one is A5 size or just a bit
bigger with a Red cover, no dust sleeve and gold lettering.
The other is in a slip case with two volumes A4 or bigger, mine is in a
black case with a Bristol Badge on the front.

Nick
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The fact is that asking prices vary wildly on the collectible book market depending upon supply and demand, and whether it's a dealer or an individual selling the book, and how keen they are to sell. Furthermore the quality of the content often has no bearing on the price.

Kevin
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Hi all -

To clarify my earlier message about the asking price for Bristol
related books, anyone can check this by looking at addall.com (which
is the best site I know to look for any old book on the Internet).

There are currently 21 entries for "Bristol Cars and Engines" under
the "used" book tab, with "Setright" as the author and "Bristol" as
keyword, ranging from $223 to $600. I am amazed.

In the same search, there are 3 entries for "A Private Car: An
Account of the Bristol" ranging from $600 to $832, This seems to be
a higher price than the standard copy as advertised by Palawan as available.

I've only obtained a few books through addall.com, but always check
this source first.

Bob

PS There is an annual "swap meet" of automotive literature in the Los
Angeles area the last Sunday in June. I've been going to it for
about 20 years. Less vendors in the last few years. The current
location is the NHRA museum in Pomona.
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Here is a picture of the books we are talking about (and some more, plus the video). (First time in Forum for me, hope it works with the picture...)
Regards Baard in Norway.
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A great collection, I have them all, the only difference is that I went mad and bought the "super dooper" A Private car"
The video is a good addition to the collection.
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Nick
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Hi Baard & Nick -

Great collection and great photo!

Bob
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I would suggest adding From Chain Drive to Turbocharger for the Aldington's version of events leading up to the birth of Bristol cars.
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Kevin and all -

Agree! It's a very good book, IMHO.

"I would suggest adding From Chain Drive to Turbocharger
(From Chain Gang to Turbocharger
for the Aldington's version of events leading up to the birth of Bristol cars."

BTW, has any assembled a bibliography of books and articles on
Bristols? I've got one on my website for Frazer Nash, somewhat
incomplete*. I think this would be a useful resource, esp. because
it seems one or more books seem to have alternate covers and editions.

Bob

* http://frazernash-usa.com/fnlit.htm
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I'm getting a bit lost in this thread - but the original cover was
not blue but darkish red grained in black. The Tassie items are
unknown to me.

Sean

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[quote=seanmcs;2462]I'm getting a bit lost in this thread - but the original cover was
not blue but darkish red grained in black. The Tassie items are
unknown to me.

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I think it's the blue ones that are the fakes from Tasmania ( worthless )
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There's one on Ebay from Germany.

Bristol cars and engines L.J.K. Setright Type 400 411 on eBay (end time 01-Mar-10 19:54:23 GMT)
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You can also find several copies at www.abebooks.com

Rob

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