412 virtues

[lansdownplace]

It must be 70s cars. I like the AM Lagonda and the Camargue as well.
I saw a lovely navy Camargue last week for about two seconds from
behind. It was too late for me to change lanes to follow it. Maybe
these cars and the 412 represented a direction in car design that
was unique to the 70s which just never developed out because luxury
car buyers are quite conservative?

[Hydroglen]

My, we do wander on our topics a little! I will chip in with the fact that
a "good education" has little to do with the ability to write correctly.
It was the case years ago, but certainly not in the last 20 years or so. Can
we assume that the staff at the BBC are educated? If so, what about their
website?
In North America ( USA and Canada ) the leaders in atrocious writing, are
MBA graduates. We can also assume they had a "good education" but there is
good and good!
Our Company holds seminars for executives on writing and general
communication skills. The "good education" they had previously received, was
of no help when it came to writing a memo!
Ever try to communicate in writing with a Banker? It makes the scribblings
on this chat page look like great literature.
I agree that the ability to write clearly is important. However those who
can't do so, should not feel that this ability is connected to a privileged
lifestyle.

Dorien

[Jervaulx]

I know the big issue with the Camargue was it's price. When it was launched
in 1975 it made the Silver Shadow look cheap by comparison. I think at the
start of the 1980's it cost £83,122 which was a massive price back then.
Was the 412 much more expensive than other Bristols around that time when in
production?

Oh and yes I like the AM Lagonda too, it's was almost space age in it's day.
A bit of a Thunderbirds kinda car.

Andrew

[Kevin H]

Originally Posted by TLF799R

Ah, here we get to the knub of the matter - it is just my poor series 1 that is inferior!!!!

LOL
Philippa

Not inferior Phillippa, just not better

Originally Posted by rubbond

Regardless of all of the technical details.
I am surprised that especially Bristol owners should have lost grasp of the
english language!
It should of course be : similar to, comparable with, and different from.
Not hard to remember, but it would make reading your e-mails much easier!
With best regards,
Andrew Knox.

I believe 'english' should be 'English', with a capital E!

To the many Bristol owners out there who are not in fact English, and for whom English is a second language, please be assured that the rest of us will not criticise you for imperfect grammar or spelling and we welcome your posts on this site.

Kevin

[Rubbond]

Clearly I upset a few people with my comment on the correct use of
prepositions in the English language.
My apologies also for miss-spelling the word "grammar". Ouch!
For those who still might be interested, the prepositions "to", "with" and
"from" are governed by the original latin prefix of the modern english verb.
So, it's "commensurate with", etc.. "Compared to" and "different to" make
the hairs on my back stand on end!
I didn't mean to insult anyone - especially from outside the UK - I just
think it a pity that the roots of the English language, after about 15
centuries of Roman influence, are now being destroyed.
With best regards,
Andrew.

[Rubbond]

Dear Kevin,
You are absolutely correct and my apologies in general.
In my last mail I wrote "Roman" with a capital letter, and also apologised
to all those not native to the UK.
In retrospect it was a foolish message but even as an engineer (capital
letter, or not?), I am nevertheless very concerned about where the english
language is going. It's like well bad.
Andrew.

[Kevin H]

Andrew, I don't think you have really upset or insulted anyone, but we might upset a few people if we keep banging on about it in this thread about the Bristol 412

Therefore, I have copied your last post into a new thread in the 'Other Topics of Interest' forum here Demise of the English language

[TLF799R]

Kevin,
U r quite rite 2 move this 2 a place different to the 412 stuf m8. Its much
2 highbrow compared to us 412 folk. LOL

Philippa

[Rubbond]

That's very sweet of you Philippa, and Kevin too.
I'm actually an engineer but will refrain from getting involved on the C of
G stuff. That is too highbrow for me and I would probably embarrass myself
further.
Anyway, we shouldn't be driving that fast.
Is LOL by the way lots of laughs, or lots of love?
Either way (Pronounced I-the-way of course, not e-the-way), my best regards,
Andrew.

[mrbennetts]

Paul, I have just seen your photographs of (presumably) your own 412, which you kindly posted, and I can now understand why you like them. Your car looks wonderful, outside and in. I am now sold on the 412. Might even chuck my Shadow away (not worth much at the moment) and look for a really nice 412 like yours. Hey Ho. If only all Bristol owners understood that ownership of a Bristol is not enough; it should be well looked-after too. Too many are just tatty. Oops......that's rather contentious ! Stephen Bennetts

[lansdownplace]

Thanks Stephen, it is my one but I can only take credit for the
polishing aspect of it's appearance, If you do want a 412 I strongly
recommend you give David Bradshaw at Bristol cars a ring, the
factory warranty is unbeatable. Andrew Blow seems to be out of V8s
altogether and Brian May was advertising for cars to sell. There is
always eBay for the brave!

Paul

[lansdownplace]

I have made up a screensaver for Kevin...


http://www.flickr.com/photos/36877266*N08/3518920377/

[browning l]

Originally Posted by lansdownplace

I have made up a screensaver for Kevin...


http://www.flickr.com/photos/36877266*N08/3518920377/

Doesn't work with me.

[TLF799R]

Hi Andrew,
It means "laughs out loud".

Philippa

[TLF799R]

Paul,
I can't make the link work...

Philippa

[lansdownplace]

Philippa, I am devastated, I thought all of those people over the years loved me!

For whatever reason when I copy the link over this site changes one of the characters in the address and the link breaks, I have tried it by directly editing but to no avail. Oh well.

[TLF799R]

Sorry Paul,
It just says that I followed a bad link and I can't find anything on your
photostream.

Philippa

[lansdownplace]

Sorry Phillipa, I went in to edit it but the site keeps substituting
a * for an * symbol in the address. I will try it tomorrow.

As an aside, how many 412s currently grace our British roads?

Paul

[Kevin H]

Originally Posted by lansdownplace

Sorry Phillipa, I went in to edit it but the site keeps substituting
a * for an * symbol in the address. I will try it tomorrow.

As an aside, how many 412s currently grace our British roads?

Paul

I have fixed this issue.

Try http://www.flickr.com/photos/36877266@N08/3518920377/

[Kevin H]

I was going to say that 412s look better in darker colours, but your car looks really good Paul, maybe it's the metallic paint that makes the difference. There's no doubt in my mind that certain colours suit certain cars.

I think the later wheels help as well, whereas I don't think they would look right on a 411.